Podcast 211: The State of Value-Based Health Care w/ John Marchica, Darwin Research Group

Jul 17, 2026

Episode Summary

After a year of interviews about value-based care, the same things keep coming up. Fee-for-service is still the problem. Payers want to pay less, providers want to bill more. And twenty years in, the people who helped build value-based care are grading it a C-minus.In his first supplemental episode, host John Marchica goes back through the transcripts and pulls out what guests agree on: the problems value-based care is trying to fix, the fixes they keep proposing — mandatory participation, full-risk capitation, payer-provider integration — how it's going so far, and where the real progress is likely to come from, which is the states, not Washington.

Episode Notes

After a year of interviews about value-based care, the same things keep coming up. Fee-for-service is still the problem. Payers want to pay less, providers want to bill more. And twenty years in, the people who helped build value-based care are grading it a C-minus.

In his first solo episode, host John Marchica goes back through the transcripts and pulls out what guests agree on: the problems value-based care is trying to fix, the fixes they keep proposing — mandatory participation, full-risk capitation, payer-provider integration — how it's going so far, and where the real progress is likely to come from.

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Health Care Rounds is a weekly podcast developed for health care leaders who are at the forefront of health care delivery and payment reform. Join Darwin Research Group founder and CEO John Marchica as he discusses the latest advancements in health care business news and policy developments.  

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